You either think about what you can contribute to society or how society owes you handouts, respect for above-mentioned bad habits, fictitious pronouns even. Fitness may be in the eye of the beholder, as hes commented himself that contempories his age have to hit the head just a bit more often. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. His Voyager appearances were also horrid. Have to completely agree you T2. I think criticism of the actors is wrong as well, its not about the actors its what they have been told deliver. But because of Discovery we have Lower Decks, Picard, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Short Treks, possibly Section 31 and the Academy show. but it looks like she did simply did it because she was her friend and room mate. Have to disagree. In this week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery season four, we saw Tilly leaving her crew and heading to the academy in order to foster young minds. So sayeth Scotty, the contrarian. Overcome her issues. You are correct, it comes down to the same thing, poor plot development. In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? Have you ever read those? In fact now I think of it, Book aside everyone has an American accent. In general, the Litverse kicks off with the TNG A Time to series that fills in events between the movies Insurrection and Nemesis. Took time to reset the franchise. Fan favourite is a bit of a stretch..quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history I never felt that what has come before should define the franchise in the future. Of course my original statement still stands regarding Tilly becoming Sarus Number One. She hopped over those 900 years. I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. He has been part of the Litverse writers room run by Pocket Books and knows not only Beyers works but the books written by others in great detail, and across all eras. After the first two seasons of high pressure I thought I would have seen more growth. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. I didnt like Reed from Enterprise, does that make me a troll? I assume my feelings towards them are what Wesley-haters endure. It is not others right to tell someone how their body should be that sort of thing was done with slaves. Sigh all you like, but thats not going to magically make physics and biology work differently. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. In season one and early season two, I was finding it credible as a case of someone who had unresolved PTSD and was unmoored from the culture that had encouraged her to supress her trauma. They basically wrote her off the show! How is she supposed to sound considering nobody knows what people in the 23rd century will talk like? TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. And over the last couple of years, so have I. Im still not fond of the gory, violent Klingon business of the first couple of seasons, but I slowly began to see DISCO anew. Overweight and obesity are not a matter of looks or body shape, and those who feel free to body-shame are off-side and frequently unkind. 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One reason why I think people gravitated towards Trip the most on Enterprise was that the combination of writing and performances created one of the most believable humans in Star Trek this side of Dr. McCoy and Chief OBrien. But of course this being Star Trek they SPOILER ALERT bring her back to life! 42 comments so far. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. Thank you, Trek Movie Staff, for sharing my interview with your readers and providing a link to Forbes.com! We want people to get their facts from reliable health sources, not celebrities, so saying actors should be sending some sort of fitness message is just backwards. Finally, actress Rekha Sharma shared this fun behind-the-scenes photo with Doug Jones and David Benjamin Tomlinson, where she lamented Landry being killed off yet again. I believe we can thank Mack for helping the Showrunners and writers identify species that would work in Prodigy and for some deep cuts. At the end of season three, I felt that she became captain not because she had earned it, but because the time had run out on the series plan for her promotion. She is relatable and human and wonderful. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Do I want to be Sisko or Picard or Archer then most likely yes. I think theres room for it. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. She served aboard the USS Discovery while still a cadet in 2256, later commissioned as an ensign . Before we move on to SuKal this Thursday, there are still some bits to catch up on from the Terra Firma arc of Star Trek: Discovery. Perhaps season four will address Burnham and Tillys unreadiness on more than an emotional level. I thought her arc was going to end with her being booted from the service for repeatedly failing physical fitness tests? Sonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. Im a human being, you know? A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. I KNOW, people say they are great, I was too focused on Star Trek when those were airing, but I might try and give the original show a shot one day. As long as Wesley Crusher exists she will always be in a race for that title. Gee, so some Trek fans can be @$$holes. Shes a little overweighed, so what? What? Bad writing, illogical story arcs, unbalanced tempo, underdeveloped characters or sudden jumps in character development. There have been moments where they tried to do that, but like everything else on Discovery where self-doubt and emotional scenes of worry in darkly-lit rooms need to be front and center, they always seemed to bring Tilly back to spazzing out because she was nervous about whether she can do it before being put on a mission. Rumors started when some problematic fans of Star Trek Discovery found out that she gained a few pounds between the seasons. Every Thursday night I yell Black Alert to let everyone know Im watching Star Trek. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. Shes fantastic and looks fantastic doing it! I just dont remember if it was something I read years ago or if it was in an interview with Gene. You made very good points and I do agree. Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all. The show will roll out on Paramount Plus in the US, and is expected to stream on Netflix elsewhere. You cant be a Star Trek fan and also be a racist or a body shamer. I have to agree. Thats just a matter of preference. She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. Release date: Star Trek Discovery season 4 will release on November 18 in the US. Rather than shaming them or acting like there are only a few kinds of women worth aspiring to be. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. I guess some people would rather the perfect people of TNG than anyone that mirrors back anything they dont want to see in themselves. Its shall we say very variable. He also has emotional intelligence. Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. The show had its official opening on Monday, March 21st, and is currently set to run through April 24. It is their choice to be as they choose to be, and their responsibility to deal with the pros and cons of whatever fitness choices they choose. Mary Wiseman. It is one thing to be healthy and quite another to be reed-thin and healthy. It feels too 21st century specific as does Tillys. Therefore, I love her. each series has traditionally had someone that acts as a way to explore the inner humanityie spock, data, odo, doc/seven. Right!? I define me. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? She strikes me as no different than Barkley. WTF this is why Ive been following Star Trek since the original in 1967 when I saw Nichelle Nichols. If there had been a believable logical progression from Cadet Tilly in season 1 to Starfleet Academy instructor in season 4, where they had built up the character to where she shed bits and pieces of the awkwardness as she became more confident in her abilities. I basically just know the books that gets discussed or reviewed here. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. Tilly is part Wesley Crusher and part Barclay. Btw have you come across any good DS9 books about what happened to Sisko or the rest of the crew after the finale? Good for her, and I love the character! Weve seen Captain Killy, so what does Mirror Universe Book look like? So I think Tilly definitely goes to employ those skills. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. Proceed accordingly. Ive learned a lot of bad spelling comes from dictating into your smartphone. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I mean, it was just so fun! I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. New episodes ofStarTrek: Discoverypremiere on Thursdays onCBS All Accessin the U.S. andonCTV Sci-Fi Channelin Canada, where its also available to stream onCrave. What tradition do you speak of? And second of all, just to dig into it, you dont always get to see a woman like me in that sort of position. I would prefer to finish the rest of Prodigy first season instead. That said, I know people can be cruel and I am even worried bringing up this topic for fear of the idiot fringe piling on, but I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Janeway is bridge crew, of course she was coming back! Can Picard go round the sun once more and rescue Saru from Discovery? Mary Wiseman said in an interview after her departing episode that she'd be back before the end of the season. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. Seasons one through three are available to stream now on CBS All Access. Wiseman was appreciative of fans who had her back online: I just want to say that all the people who step in, to back me up like that, your presence is like little angels, like blocking out these little trolls. Marys my TV crush for the last 3 years. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. I agree, the writing, character development, and story telling needs to improve. And it could fit nicely with Chakotays story on the show and that hes also in the DQ for the mission and now has to find the ship. The very basis of Star Trek is in direct conflict with people like that. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. Because Book is someone who doesnt just have cerebral, intellectual intelligence. We need to examine our highest ideals and allegiances to reveal our preconceived notions, shallow knee-jerk reactions, and find the truth about our choices. The journey to discovering Tilly, the rescue puppy that would change our lives, began before she was even born. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. Is her awkwardness all that different from Ezri on DS9? Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. She isnt back on Discovery. Shes beyond perfect with her line delivery. Thats not a leader. The character. He was competing in show jumping events with his horses until at least his 70s. You are always very insightful. I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Just blows my mind. In the season four finale Coming Home, Mary Wiseman returned as Lt. Tilly, now a Starfleet Academy leader working with cadets and Admiral Vance to coordinate the evacuation and defense of Earth on Federation HQ. Sort of the same way Spock stayed first officer in the movies to Kirk although he was a captain for five of those films. It feels the only reason was to have a non-binary character, which after a few episodes ended up fading into the background with the rest of the furniture anyway. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew, one of which was with the pair-up of Mary Wiseman (Tilly) and David Ajala (Book). Absolutely. Having a discussion about healthy weights, healthy eating and physical activity and how thats important is a good Star Trek message. And another way to look at it: at least its not another hour of tv taken by a reality show, right? The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. Thats a refreshing thing for Berman Era Star Trek, when characters tend to be more reserved and the dialogue is highly stylized and precise. And I just really love having Janeway back. The door is open, I suppose, if that show should fail for some reason, but I doubt theyll just throw her back into the same role on the ship like nothing ever happened. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Thats the thing about DSC. I highly doubt the writers decided to just write her off for the hell of it (especially given how much everyone in the cast and crew love her). Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. Not liking a character doesnt make a person a troll, so Im not even sure what that nonsensical comment was supposed to mean. You mean that I can find myself a BBW in the 32nd Century? | December 23, 2020 | Harry wasnt annoying. The burden is now on SNWThat show can either make or break it with regards to these issues. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! Jerks. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. Then maybe I would actually remember his name! Bullied badly as a child and teen so I know what I speak of; Im just glad I grew up pre-Internet, and I sympathize with any nowadays who have to deal with Internet bullying on top of real world bullying. Its just lazy writing. I for one have always had to watch my weight and I still wage the battle to this day. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Im sorry if the idea of someone not like Discovery upsets you, but its unreasonable to expect people to change their minds for that reason. Im proud to see that shes proud of herself. ..I have a total girl crush. Although it is true that on *average*, overweight people are less healthy than other people, it is also entirely possible to be overweight and healthy. Episodes will be available on Fridays internationally on Netflix. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). But admittedly, its pretty close. Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. The reason why Troi was on the bridge all the timewas that she was a betazoid. Shes a product of poor writing, constantly ditzy and trying to be the light relief to the point where its eye rolling. After Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Tilly (Mary Wiseman) journey to a planet alongside Burnham's mother Gabrielle (Sonja Sohn), things get a little hairy when the Qowat Milat nun they're . Im glad we are finally seeing it. When Mary Wisemans Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. She could of made it what we call General American/mid-Atlantic to neutralize it a little. 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The Terra Firma arc introduced the real Mirror Universe version of Tilly (aka Captain Killy). Obviously I dont know what M. Wiseman is like. It included a lot of the old characters too like Chakotay, BElanna, Tuvok with a lot of new characters. My condolences to you, for your mum. Wiseman possess voluptuous hourglass shaped figure. lol ;). When I was around 12 I used to eat peanut butter and drink Ensure, a meal replacement drink, before I went to sleep. I think the ship can handle a little chonk. That was an awfully fast turnaround. I realized that unless I wanted to deal with health issues like hypertension, diabetes and other medical ailments, I would have to eat less and less as I got older and older. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. If that happens, I'm betting she'll be a part of it. Body shaming is wrong and immature. By existing? By: TrekMovie.com Staff He was in the Travis Mayweather category. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? Its far from just the United States or even just affluent countries.